Drucker Calls Kampf’s Voter ID Claims ‘Insulting’
5,915 registered voters in the 157th District lack necessary ID to cast a ballot, says the Democrat's campaign.
In response to state Rep. Warren Kampf’s (R-157) suggestion that Pennsylvania’s controversial voter ID law might actually boost turnout at the polls this November, Democratic challenger Paul Drucker criticized the incumbent and announced the creation of a helpline to get local voters valid identification.
“I will not sit back and watch the voters of my district have their rights stolen,” Drucker wrote on his campaign website.
“I have spent my life standing up for the rights of others as both an elected official and attorney. The right to vote is fundamental to our democracy. I choose to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Regardless of the outcome of this election, I can honestly say that my campaign stood up for the rights of the voters of the 157th and helped people.”
According to the Democrat's website, voters without valid identification can contact the helpline at 484-629-VOTE.
Drucker went on to call Kampf’s assertion—made at a July 30 town hall meeting at Phoenixville High School—that a law blocking those without ID from casting a ballot “may actually enfranchise people” preposterous.
“Rep. Kampf’s claim is ridiculous and insulting,” Drucker wrote. “He owes an explanation and an apology to the voters of the 157th District. The current administration has admitted that it lacks evidence of voter fraud in Pennsylvania. Despite this fact, Kampf and his GOP colleagues voted for this legislation which robs citizens of their right to vote and costs taxpayers $12 million.”
The Drucker campaign claims that, according to PennDOT records, almost 13 percent of registered 157th District voters are estimated to be without the ID necessary to vote. That’s 5,915 registered voters, including approximately 1,898 seniors.
“These are not the cheaters and scam artists that Rep. Kampf and his colleagues would like you to imagine,” the release went on. “They are our parents, grandparents, and neighbors.“
Kampf, for his part, characterizes the law as a commonsense measure to reduce the likelihood of fraud and enhance the credibility of elections.
“It never made sense to me when I walked into a polling place…and all I had to do was say my name and sign a signature that was right there in front of me and I could vote. That didn’t seem to me to be a very strong protection,” the representative said.
Joe Melchiorre
6:26 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Hey D
Joe Melchiorre
6:28 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Hey Drucker, maybe they get registered, you can get them to vote your Route 422 toll tax in. LOL!! LOSER!! How about some valid proof of these numbers you "dums" like to throw out
Ed Naratil
6:44 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Now subtract from that figure all those that have other forms of IDs than PennDoT issued drivers licenses. What's the total? Ah, I thought so - neither of you has a clue.
Interested Observer
8:22 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
There goes Mr. Drucker again with the negative, hyper-partisan attacks he and his campaign are famous for.
The fact is, Mr. Kampf provided a reason for his thought - and actual back-up with what happened in Georgia. He also made it clear his office is working hard to help anyone who needs ID for this fall. I guess Mr. Drucker just chose to ignore that.
Anyone who has been reading the papers -- and apparently Mr. Drucker hasn't because it doesn't fit with his partisan attack strategy -- knows that the figures he uses are suspect at best. As reported, those lists include a US Congressman from Northeast PA, the former Mayor of Philadelphia and several Council members in Philadelphia -- all of whom have the necessary ID and have said so. But, since the facts don't fit, Mr. Drucker ignores them. This is a lot like earlier this year when Drucker's campaign claimed he never supported tolling Route 422 even though he was on video in a newspaper interview specifically supporting tolling.
Perhaps the very worst part of this is Mr. Drucker using this to try and drive donations to his political campaign. I visited his website and the only thing to donate to there is his campaign -- not a voter ID effort. Perhaps Mr. Drucker should take a look in the mirror and see that it is he who is "insulting" the people of our community.
I have had enough of Paul Drucker's political lies and BS.
Gil Zimmerman
8:48 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Sounds like the only campaign strategy available to Democrats is to throw mud and muck, regardless of facts, since they have no viable records to run on. I think most folks would prefer that illegal aliens, dead people and dogs are no longer allowed to vote and those who can and should vote only vote once. For anyone from Philadelphia (or Chicago) to claim that there is no voter fraud and therefore no need for voter ID, pushes the envelope of believability.
David Curran
10:00 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Well Mr Zimmerman I guess it is your turn to find examples of voter impersonation fraud- Good Luck. It is waste of taxpayer money- plain and simple.
How are the Repubs going to waste money next.
Perhaps they could put a zebra crossing on Pothouse Road or maybe signs in Reeves Park saying "Do not Feed the Polar Bears". Bunch of hypocrites!
Obama Remorse
10:10 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
The fact is that the Democrat party thrives on illegal votes and they are in a panic because their voter fraud tactics may not work this time...
N.C.
10:37 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
I see so many people throwing a tantrum over a 422 toll, but where is the outrage over the $5-$11 million this ID law is going to cost? Who do you think is gonna pay for that?
N.C.
10:39 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Many parts of 422 are in desperate need of serious repairs. Where do you repubs suggest the money come from?
Typical neo-cons, penny wise and dollar foolish.
Interested Observer
11:33 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
I can tell you that Paul Drucker thinks it should ALWAYS come from you. Always, always, always pay more. How about we cut out the hundreds of millions in extra debt Drucker took on for stuff like the Specter Library and a golf resort and use that for fixing roads? Or reform welfare so drug addicts have to prove they aren't on drugs when getting benefits? Nope, not that either. Just keep spending and asking you for more...that's Drucker's plan and agenda.
Obama Remorse
11:47 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
We already pay 50.7 cents per gallon in federal, state, and local tax PER GALLON of gas purchased. How about using THAT money?????
Daniel Pipes
10:56 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Just like THE FEDS darlin'. Tipical Lib ignore the proof, attack and change the subject. Whose laughing now.
N.C.
12:30 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
@interested observer
I'm no fan of people using welfare for drugs, but that is yet another example of tea party politician failure.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/20/2758871/floridas-welfare-drug-tests-cost.html
Daniel Pipes
12:30 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
http://archives.citypaper.net/articles/101295/article009.shtml
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12:38 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Yo crack Pipes, the article you posted (FINALLY figured out how to provide a real link) discussed WRITE IN VOTES, not people coming to the polls pretending to be someone else. Again, how does this phot ID law address the write in vote issue (which most agree is the main source of fraud).
You spent two days google searching but then come back with an article unrelated to the topic. Classic....
the original harry finster1
4:42 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
should they let sandusky go because his illegal activities occured in the past and he got away with it,due to a culture of looking the other way
Daniel Pipes
1:09 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Did you read the whole artcle Dick. Even Ed Spendell and Brady verify it. How about the jersy people as pole workers...illegal or double addresses. Isn't that fraud. You people are EXHAUSTING.
By the way Jim Jones wrote the kool aide legislation. Keep drinking my friend.
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1:35 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
OK, crack Pipes, let's try this again. Read very slowly this time. NOBODY has said that there has not been fraud in the election process. What we questioned is how requiring people who to have valid state photo IDs in order to vote will address the issue considering 99.99% of the fraud happens with write in ballots and in the counting process. This ID law is costing the taxpayers millions and wil do NOTHING to stop the vast majority of fraud that happens. You nor any of your right wing buddies have provided any examples of an illegal voter coming to the polls pretending to be someone else.
Take your lips off the crack pipe and think before you reply....
.
6:57 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Actually Appleman, someone who doesn't want to make themselves available to be stalked and harrassed by some of the nut cases who post on line would decline to use their real names. Someone who also has a high profile job may also do the same. Someone with nothing to lose, such as yourself surely doesn't mind.
Nice try sparky.....
Diane Fusco
1:13 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
This makes me wonder if the core issue here is not being able to pull a headcount out of thin air. I find it hard to believe in this day and age someone would not have ID. If you write a check in the supermarket you are required to show ID. It is pretty much standard in acquiring goods and services in this country. I don't understand why requiring identification is being put on the level of unwarranted taxation upon the people's sensibilities. Personally, I think there should be some sort of verification process in place beyond ID; I would not be against finger print scanning at this point. Our right to vote should be protected. The conspiracy theorists would have a field day with that one. Let's get real; we have bigger fish to fry. The country has gone to hell in a hand basket.
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1:41 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Diane Fusco - Many seniors stop renewing their ID once they stop driving. These people would not be allowed to vote under this law. Women fleeing domestic violence often have to leave documents behind. They would not be able to vote under this law. Many of the poorest people in our society can't afford to drive or get a valid state ID (if they can even get to the DMV due to our horrible public transportation system). These people won't be able to vote under this law.
As for finger print scanning, do you realize how much that would cost? Why would you want to pay increased taxes to set up a high tech figure printing scanning system at every polling place in PA to address a problem that has been PROVEN not to exsist? You have better chance of being struck by lightning then finding someone showing up at the polls trying to vote pretending to be someone else.
Daniel Pipes
2:15 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Youtube.com
U.S. AG Eric Holders ballot offered to total stranger.
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2:24 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
What the funk are you talking about? Seriously, you make no sense. This isn't even funny any more, just sad and pathetic.
Peace out.
David Curran
2:37 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
The Project Veritas video proves nothing. The fraudulent voter never signed or placed an actual vote. Do u know why- because if he had he would have commited a serious crime. Kind of why this crime isn't commited by anyone.
MrBlue
2:45 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
All studies show that though there is a tiny fraction of 1% of real voter fraud, it's never made a difference in a single race. We all know it's not a real problem and so do they! Republicans (even those pontificating here) have never been able to show a single case of an election outcome being changed because of voter fraud...but are willing to spend millions of dollars, disenfranchise millions of voters, steal elections in the name of preventing voter fraud...but we know its all about power.
Because they have temporarily won this power they will do anything to keep it!
They know that if they can reduce the minority vote, make sure the poor and disadvantaged are not allowed to have a voice in elections it's the only chance they have to stay in power.
So they pretend to care about Democracy but it's clear they are really only interested in getting and staying in power..
The hypocritical Right screams about "citizens rights" when talking about the Second Amendment and the same people shamelessly steal rights from citizens through arcane tactics using shady statistics, just like the old Poll Tax...stealing one of the hardest fought and most precious rights there is in a Democracy...the right to have voice in your Government.You should be ashamed of yourselves Republicans. I've heard (and read here) voter ID defended it as if it's an actual crisis but we all know why they want it so badly...they can't win without it and they know it!
VoterID is an assault on basic freedom!
David Curran
2:55 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Right on target mr.blue, and the people who defend it (photo ID), probably consider themselves patriotic as they desicrate one of the institutions that makes our country special.
MrBlue
3:15 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
I would say you sound ridiculously defensive in the last comment BA...if voter fraud is such a problem, why wouldn't that mean that when the Democrats got "plastered" it must have been because the last elections were full of fraud and thus should be challenged? Right? Or maybe it doesn't count when you win,huh?
I doubt even YOU believe this is about electoral integrity!
Funny how you didn't answer the basic argument about the fact there is not a single case of an election result changed because of voter fraud so why spend the money when we are n budget deficit?
You're rationalizing the GOP fear of letting the electorate speak...and their inability to win if all the people are allowed a voice.
It sounds from your response you agreed with the the Poll Tax in the South.
Was that ok? Or are you afraid to answer that argument as well, and if you're not, describe to me how without a single case to bolster your weak argument you think it's really justified spending over 10 million dollars on voter ID.
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3:58 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
You hit the nail on the head but some of these right wingers don't care about anything but getting the "black, socialist, muslim" out of office in November, regardless of the law. I can hardly wait until November when he wins re-election (mainly because Mitt Romney is an out of touch clown).
MrBlue
3:26 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Hmmm...I thought so. You are proving my point...! I guess the comment below was your idea of civil? You are as transparent as you hypocritical BA!
"BAppleman
50 minutes ago
I see the basement dweller known as Richard Hurtz has returned with his idiotic rants."
p.s. This is going to the Supreme Court so don't be too confident you can steal the election just yet!
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3:56 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Mr Blue, this Brady Appleman guy is a complete goof. You should have saw his Archie Bunker like comments from yesterday. He is unable to engage in a real debate based on facts and logic. The funniest part is he isn't very good at "name calling" either so after he gets embarrassed on that front as well he resorts to the "I'm not going to waste my time" stuff.
At least he provides some laughs.....
MrBlue
3:32 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
It's ok BA...
It's clear why you won't respond...just the fact you're suddenly afraid to engage in a debate on the subject I think means you made my point for me!
But it's not over yet...!
Sometimes the good guys beat the powerful in the courts, it's called a guaranteeing of one's Civil Rights!
Interested Observer
9:41 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Eveyone asking "for one example" see this link about joe cheeseburger
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20120719_Report_turns_up_Philadelphia_voting_irregularities.html?ref=more-like-this
This was dug up by investigating just a few of the philadelphia polling places, not nearly all.
Daniel Pipes
1:21 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
IO... We can post all the links we want to prove that voter fraud has happened. The only proof they want to see is did it happen lately. I'm sure this law disenfranchises some voters which is not right and accomadations should be made for those voters. Any fraudulant vote that cancells out a litgitimate vote is still fraud. MR won't win PA whether there is a voter ID Bill or not. Registration shows 2-1 advantage DEMS in PA. The only question I have is if it is legal in 27 other states my assertion will be that if the PA Supreme Court finds it unconstitutional how can it be illegal here and not in the rest of the country.
That just goes to show that judges that are supposed to be nonpartisan and follow the rule of the law ( CONSTITUTION) don't. Perfect example is the US Supreme Court upholding OBAMACARE & declaring it a TAX. Either it is unconstitutional 9-0 or not. When the jobs created two months ago according to this President stood at 4.6 million and unemployment was 8.2% and yesterday he announced that they gained 160,000 jobs last month to 4.5 million and unemployment went UP to 8.3 % its a disgrace that they can't even get their math right.
Let them keep slinging the mud to see what will stick. They can't run on their record because they don't have one. Not one balanced budget in three years and its all the R'S fault.
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10:15 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
The link you provided does NOT provide any examples of some one trying to vote pretending to be someone else. It discusses fraud involving the counts, which the ID law doesn't NOT address. Here is telling quote from the story:
"Schmidt's review of the primary election did not disclose any instances of voter impersonation, ostensibly the major reason for the state's new voter ID law, which requires all Pennsylvania voters to present a driver's license or other specified form of photo ID when they go to the polls in November".
Do you clowns even read these articles before trying to use them to prove your points? The truth is this article only proved the point that the voter ID law will NOT stop any of the fraud
the original harry finster1
1:07 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/55863184/phoenixville2p
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10:17 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
Sounds like the late 80s, early 90s in Phoenixville and the coach sounds a lot like Bill Shirk.
The town has gotten 100% better since then however. Why bring up old stuff?
Daniel Pipes
1:43 am on Saturday, August 4, 2012
Paul Ryan has a plan for a balanced budget and a healthcare plan and all Harry Reid and that MULTIMILLIONAIRE NANCY PELOSI want to see is MR tax returns for the last 10 years. They're all millionaires and using the tax code to their advantage. Harry Reid should be called to the floor for even suggesting it the way he did. The only summation that I have is this President ran on a promise to bring this country together and abort everything that that the Bush Administration passed and he kept every initiative ie: Guantanamo, Patriot Act, Tarp, Bailouts and even to his credit KILLED OSB ( i wont even mention his name scumbag) and all the heads of alqida with his KILL LIST & the only HOPE AND CHANGE we will see is after the Heathcare Bill + 21 TAXES AND $741,000 MILLION taken out of Medicare to pay for it when every babyboomer on here will need it and all the wasted TAXPAYER $ on the Solyndras,GM (worthless stock) Wall ST bailouts is you better " HOPE YOU HAVE SOME CHANGE LEFT IN YOUR POCKET" to pay for it if he wins again. Everyone have a BLESSED LIFE and good night . Sorry for the rant.
Diane Fusco
1:42 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Update: The law is going into effect for this fall's election. For further info see Legal Intelligencer.
PA's voter ID law was upheld today at the preliminary injunction stage because a state judge said the law will be implemented by PA's government in a "non-partisan, even-handed manner." Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Simpson denied petitioners' application for preliminary injunction. Simpson pointed out voters could bring constitutional challenges to the law as the law applies to them in the future.
"Petitioners did not establish … that disenfranchisement was immediate or inevitable," Simpson said. "On the contrary, more credible evidence on issue was offered through commonwealth witnesses." Petitioners argued law violated state constitution, requiring elections be free + equal by not unduly burdening the fundamental right to vote. Argued right to vote was burdened because law doesn't apply equally to all voters in same circumstances + the law imposes an additional qualification on right to vote that also violates the state constitution. Simpson said "petitioners' counsel did excellent job of 'putting a face' to those burdened by the voter ID requirement. At the end of the day, however, I do not have the luxury of deciding issue based on my sympathy for the witnesses or my esteem for counsel. Rather, I must analyze the law, and apply to evidence of facial unconstitutionality brought forth in the courtroom, tested by our adversarial system."
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