Phoenixville Ballpark Plans Moving Forward?
A source told Patch that as soon as next month, the much anticipated report on the feasibility of bringing a minor league ballpark to the borough will be released.
A source with ties to the Phoenixville Baseball Committee confirmed to Patch earlier this week that the Chester County Economic Development Council's report on the feasibility of bringing a minor league ballpark to the borough is expected “within the next couple of months.”
Pending the results of the report, which was originally expected to be released in December, plans to lure an independent team or a rookie league MLB affiliate to Phoenixville will go forward.
The Phoenixville Baseball Committee has already toured minor league parks in Lancaster and Reading. It also met with a construction company that provided an estimate of what it would cost to build what would likely be a 3,500- to 4,500-seat facility on the 120-acre former site of the Phoenixville Iron and Steel Company.
The greatly anticipated Chester County Economic Development Council report will evaluate comparable minor league baseball stadiums; study Phoenixville’s demographics; prepare pertinent paperwork; analyze construction cost estimates and timelines; determine debt service capabilities; locate potential sources of public funding and grants; and develop a capital stack scenario to finance the project.
The source also told Patch that finding funding for the ballpark—the construction cost of which is expected to fall somewhere between $20 to $30 million—is not expected to be an issue.
Previous reporting on the proposed stadium:
Economists: Impact of Ballparks Generally Positive, but Modest
Phoenixville Could Have Baseball Team by 2016
Inquirer: Ballpark Still a Possibility for Phoenixville
Baseball Stadium in Phoenixville: Focus on Funding
Committee Formed to Explore Possibility of Phoenixville Baseball Stadium
Betty
7:35 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I shudder when I think of traffic at Bridge and Starr on a weeknight evening if this is approved. We simply do not have the roads to support it at this time.
Grant McGeary
11:02 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
The boom a baseball park would make to this town would be enormous. Car traffic does increase when a town tries to right itself. Its called growth.
karlub
7:51 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
One would presume it comes with roads. And given where I've heard it will be-- over by Cedar Hollow Recycling-- Bridge and Starr might not even be impacted that much. There will be impacts elsewhere, of course, but I don't really think that will be your problem.
The fact is, popularity = the problems of popularity. The traffic through Wayne on Rt. 30 is pretty bad. It is very hard to find a parking spot exactly where you want to be in Chestnut Hill. Going down Gay Street-- in West Chester-- is NEVER a quick proposition.
Betty
9:02 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I thought the original plan had the ballpark in the Phoenix Steel Brownfield area, which I thought was near this intersection?
Lorraine
8:05 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
TRAFFIC!!! I see nightmare!
Randy Morin
8:11 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
This would be a wonderful addition to our downtown. Presumably the ballpark would include parking which could then be used for other things when there is no game.
Laura S
9:17 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I see a flea market/swap meet as a potential for the parking lot when not in use for games.
1
9:19 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Who is this "source"? Sorry but unless the author can give names of his "source" this is just more BS.
Randy Morin
9:30 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
What is BS? All this article says is that a feasibility report will be released in the next couple of months.
Realist
12:09 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
And should we conclude everything you say is BS unless you name yourself 1
1
12:15 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Randy, the "BS" is that we have all heard about these pipe dreams before. Remember the train station running through Phoenixville? That too had a "feasibility report" where a lot of "consultants" and local boot lickers received funds but there is still no train in town.
My guess is few guys will line their pockets doing "studies" but in the end there will be no minor league baseball team/park in town with a lot of tax payer money wasted paying a few of the same old scam artist "fees for their services"
To quote Flavor Flav: Don't believe the hype!
1
12:18 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I am simply giving an OPINION and have nothing to gain or lose by hyping up this latest pipe dream. What you have to ask yourself is who does?
PS - In case you didn't notice, YOU too are NOT posting under your real name. Pot meet kettle...
Paul O'Leary
9:58 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
If properly planned I think that this would be a great addition and a nice change from bars and restaurants (not that I don't appreciate them as well). Properly planned is the key phrase here.
Brian Peppel
10:10 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
There will be changes in borough council after Novembers elections. We need to ensure we elect people that will consider the residents concerns and not just ram this through.
ed r.
12:02 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Very curious to read whats said in the report when it comes out...
OLD MAN
12:16 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Any one who would be opposed to this is an idiot. This would be a tremendous boost to Phoenixville . Think of the revenue this would generate
ed r.
12:18 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I think we should wait to see what the report says before we call anyone idiots. What I'm curious to know is how long it will take to generate income, to offset any cost involved to taxpayers. Build the park, but it should be done without taxpayer money unless there is an immediate return on investment. Phoenixville has done too much already to waste taxpayers money ( parking authority comes to mind.. )
1
12:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Yeah because Reading (one of the poorest cities in the state) is really booming thanks to their minor league team. The Reading Phillies put on a great show and I think they do OK as a business but the impact on the city of Reading has been next to zero.
Don't be surprised whne millions are wasted on studies and consultant fees beut we end up with nothing to show for it....see the Phoenixville "train to no where" for a good example. You need to educate yourself OLD MAN!
Realist
12:25 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Actually Ed the parking authority or whatever its name is now, earned Phoenixville a lot of money. If I heard correctly at the last Council meeting it was $500,000. Now if they can funnel that money into other project (and fix the existing meters) it will be well worth it.
ed r.
12:26 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
So they paid off the 100k loan already? Last I checked it hasn't been...
jk
2:46 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
no, ballparks do not generate money for the municipality they are situated in.
Realist
12:31 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Ed that was paid off by the borough when the Borough took it over. It had to be done in order to close out the Parking Authority and move it over to the Borough.
My guess is the reason our taxes didn't go up again this year is because of the revenue that parking has made.
ed r.
12:32 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Nice. Thanks for the 411.
1
2:21 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
The parking authority is a complete joke and running a borderline illegal operation. I was down town over the Christmas holiday to see some friends and about a few weeks later received a letter in the mail that stated I had an outstanding parking ticket (no ticket was ever put on my windsheld) which was now $50+. I went to the court house to get a hearing and the woman there said that there are so many people that want hearings about these bogus tickets that the judge set aside two entire mornings to hear them all at once (the list for my day had 29 people on it). I then when to Borough Hall and demanded to speak with the person in charge of the parking ticket situation. I was told it was Stephen Nease, but of course he wasn't available. The lady I spoke with said people come in all day long complaining about bogus tickets and actually waived it for me sending a notice to the court to take me off the docket but I guessing the majority of people don't take the time to do this and just pay the tickets which is how these scum bags ended up with $500,000 in the first place! It's theft plain and simple! This is why I and most people I know hardly ever drive downtown anymore. There are plenty of other great bars and restaurants in the area with plenty of FREE parking (and not as many drunken want to be gangsters and fant boy types looking to start something)! My guess is "realist" is on the Borough payroll benefiting from this BS.
Mshell
12:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
So nice to read the positive thinking from some of the people here. It's the old saying if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all. Or better yet, if you don't like where you live, leave.
Bob
1:19 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Nice to see a lead article from the Patch that isn't a crime report.
As for a possible ballpark, I hope it's feasible. It would be a nice addition to town and would provide a moderate positive impact to town - especially the restaurants. Not sure traffic would be a major issue if the stadium will only hold up to 4,500 people, but that's what this report will tell us.
1
2:07 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
We have nearly no public transportation in Phoenixville outside one bus route. 4,500 additional people would mean at least 4,000 more cars on our already outdated roads. This would make life horrible for 3-4 months a year for people who live here with no real benefit to the town.
ed r.
2:09 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
1, you are well founded in your skepticism. But the report isn't out yet. Lets just see what it says first. Really this article is kind of pointless without the actual report...
John C
6:49 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
There is more than one bus route and there is also cabs running around town all day. Come out from your rock Patrick
1
2:26 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I would be all for a minor league baseball team in town if it made ecomonic sense and wouldn't mess up the quality of life for many residents on the south side of town. I'll read the report. There is a reason West Chester (a much bigger town with major road access (202, Route 3, etc...) said no to this same group. This is a deal that will make a one or two local developers richer but will screw the rest of us before falling apart. I'll read the report as well but don't trust every thing you are told. The local developers have deep pockets to skew these things to get what they want in the short term, not really caring about the long term.
jk
2:45 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
really hope no public money is involved in this....always a cash grab that never works out for the taxpayers.
Don Heller
3:37 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
How does 4500 people equal 4000 cars? Makes no sense.
The Reading Phillies have done a lot for the city of reading. Including lots of charity work, and giving kids ball fields to play on in the city.
Your comments hold no validity.
David Curran
11:23 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Reading has done an excellent job with their minor league team; but therein lies the problem. I usually go to several reading Phil's game a year, and always enjoy myself. From Pville it really is not a bad drive and the parking is free (I think). I think unless the team is affiliated with the big league Phil's, the novelty might wear off within a year or two. And then what?
L Madden
3:57 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
one question who the hell is paying for it and with what money
nameless citizen
4:10 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I have to thank whoever came up with the idea of this baseball team idea, I haven't had a laugh like this in a long time. What a joke.
growyourown
5:14 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I'm a huge baseball fan but I don't believe it will be a money maker if the facility relies on baseball revenue alone. also most people wont attend the games especially with the philles so close. wilmington has a beautiful stadium and cant draw anyone out to the games. and why should the tax payers be burdened with the cost. one of the reasons the reading phillies draw is it is much further away from major league baseball. also phoeniville doesn't have the population density to support the necessary ticket sales. not a good business model I don't want to pay for this
Obama Remorse
9:58 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
They should have just put the $30 mil in the Hurricane Sandy "relief" bill - they threw all kinds of other nonsense in there, why not a stadium? $30 mil would only be 0.588% of the $51 billion bill - a drop in the bucket. Just pretend a stadium was there and the hurricane blew it away, so we can just borrow from China for a new one.
DuffDog
9:16 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Oh brother. In case you didn't notice, this is a local issue. If you still need to vent and lick your Election Day wounds, you should be trolling on the national news sites.
ed r.
9:17 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
seriously. this guy is like the angry ex-girlfriend who follows you around trying to cause trouble when you're hanging out with your friends....
L Madden
12:02 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
go to http://www.usdebtclock.org/ look at the debt clock in real time then explain to me how more spending is good
chester
8:25 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Phoenixville had to close a fire dept and doesn't have enough police officers. This venture, while attractive in some ways, seems like a lower priority than many other enhancements the borough needs.
Paul G. Celentano
10:49 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
There would have to be major road improvements for me to get on board (422 spur, parking shuttles, rail service etc.)
Other than that, if it is economically feasible and doesn't keep the neighbors up, I'll at least listen.
BTW: I miss having the old quarter midget track next to Desannos Field!
James C
4:10 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
I think it will be great! Is the Demutis development downtown still happening or is that considered dead?
there, i said it..
11:09 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
I too think it would be great! Does anyone really know what is going on in Phoenixville? I see construction happening with the new town-homes, and it looks like there is something going on behind the French Creek town-homes too? What about the Shoppes at French Creek proposal? Anybody know anything that is actually true?
As a transplant to this area, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to see their town thrive and progress forward. So what, there is a little more traffic. I guess the idea of living in a desirable place where people come to have dinner, walk around, spend money in your community suddenly makes it UN-desirable? Seriously? I am not trying to mock anyone here, I just dont understand your negativity . If you aspire to live like Honey Boo Boo go ahead but don't take us and our property value down with you .
I think SS above pretty much summed it up -- " if you don't like where you live, leave "
There, i said it..
Michael Hill
8:13 am on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
The Economic Development Committee Meeting is a good source of information of what is going on in Phoenixville. It’s the third Tuesday of the month. Which was last night.
I attended, and here is a brief overview. The Shoppes at French Creek are still in development. They plan to have less retail space than originally planned and more housing and the parking garage has been removed out of the plan.
Madison at French Creek is starting construction in June after remediation takes place on the site of the old steel mill.
Ryan Homes has sold about 12 units so far which is great for this economy.
The Streetscapes Project will start up in spring. Brick sidewalks along the business area of Bridge Street and then cement sidewalks down to Nutt Road.
The children’s plaza on Bridge Street will be getting more lighting. I heard that they will be able to run multicolor lights for different occasions. Pink for breast cancer, green and read for Christmas, red, white and blue for the fourth of July . . .
Katelyn Fogarty
12:57 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013
I think it would be great if this happened. Phoenixville is filled with bars and nothing for families to do together. Kids would love it! I hope it works out!
Paul G. Celentano
11:05 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013
What about putting the stadium in Oaks near the convention center?
The infrastructure is better and maybe it could help fund the planned 422 improvements instead of placing tolls on 422.
I have no idea if that would work.
Just throwin' it out there.