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Phoenixville School District Limiting Relationship with TCHS Pickering

By 2015-'16, PASD students will not be allowed to complete academic coursework at the technical school.

In an effort to cut costs and improve test scores, Phoenixville Area School District is putting new limitations on its relationship with TCHS Pickering, the Times Herald is reporting.

According to the paper, at the January 17 school board meeting, PASD superintendent Dr. Alan Fegley said that, in the new arrangement, PAHS students enrolled at Pickering will continue to take their technical courses at TCHS, but will eventually complete academic coursework only at the high school.

The change will be phased in beginning in the 2013-’14 academic year.

  • In 2013-’14, seniors and juniors will retain the option of attending Pickering full-time, while sophomores will only be able to take their technical courses there. All students who are new to the program will only have the part-time option.
  • In 2014-’15, only seniors will have the full-time option, while sophomores and juniors will complete their academic coursework at PAHS.
  • Starting in 2015-’16, all district students will only be able to attend TCHS Pickering part-time.

District parents were notified of the change through the mail.

Read the full story here.

Josh Gould January 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Post 1 of 2 This is Ike's interpretation of Tom Sunnergren's interpretation of Frank Otto's interpretation of what Dr. Fegley said a week ago, so it's not surprising that the message has gotten a little garbled. Let me try to clarify before everyone gets their caps lock in an uproar. TCHS (formerly CAT Pickering, formerly "the Tech School") is not part of PASD, it is part of the Chester County Intermediate Unit (CCIU). PASD is held accountable by the state for the performance of Phoenixville students who attend public schools, including Phoenixville students who do not attend PASD schools (such as students who attend TCHS, Rennaissance Academy, etc.). What we have found is that, on average, the performance of students attending TCHS declines. Specifically, TCHS students on average do worse on PSSAs than they did when they took PSSAs in previous grades at PASD, and do worse on average than their classmates who stay at PASD. This hurts our (PASD) chances of meeting the state's adequate yearly progress (AYP) goals as required under No Child Left Behind.
Josh Gould January 25, 2013 at 12:54 AM
Post 2 of 2 PASD recognizes the value of the technical education that TCHS offers to some students and we do not want to take that option away, but we also are rightly held accountable to ensure that students receive a quality education. That is why we are taking steps to teach "core subjects" (like Math) at PAHS but still allow students the option of taking the technical courses at TCHS. In other words, half day at PAHS and half day at TCHS. Of course the CCIU is not happy about this decision, but to their great credit they are working with PASD to implement this in the best way for the students. Also, we are allowing students who currently are full day at TCHS to continue full day if they and their parents decide that is best for them. Although the end result is that we will pay somewhat less to the CCIU, this was not a financial decision. The decision was driven by student performance. Hope this helps.
oldschool January 25, 2013 at 02:37 AM
The students who attend do not have strong scores are not going to have higher scores back at PAHS. They tell you it is not to save money but improve the student. The student is now out the school, out of class room on bus, back and forth. Call it what it is less about student more about money.
harry finster January 25, 2013 at 04:49 AM
there is an old saying you cant make a silk purse from a sows ear very appropriate
harry finster January 25, 2013 at 05:02 AM
I can sum it up quickly for you smart kids from the suburbs unrelated to phoenixville do well drug/ alcohol kids who's parents dont care ,that is the average phoenixville type person do poorly, it wont change
Satch January 25, 2013 at 07:38 AM
josh, will you pay my american express bill? please.
Wendy January 25, 2013 at 01:38 PM
Oldschool and Harry Finster your level of ignorance are off the charts. As a parent who loves Phoenixville, child tested in the 7th grade while in the 6th grade of the PSSA. It's ignorance like this, that places a child within a quality of education that's beneath their skill set and diminishes their ability to excel in life. TCHS has alot of technical skills/ability to offer but, the quality of their academics should be unacceptable.
Ike January 25, 2013 at 02:41 PM
Got it , thank you Josh. Yes you are right , the core subjects were allways so easy at Tech . Ok so they go there only for the technical courses. Sounds good.
Ike January 25, 2013 at 02:45 PM
And you, the tech school when first open was really only worried about technical teaching ,, job skills and so forth. Now a days they dont have a lot of classes , cause since Obama and the rest Washington are on the job. THERE ARE NO JOBS.
SS January 25, 2013 at 04:02 PM
harry you are one ignorant sob. you sit on your high horse and criticize phoenixville. whats your real beef. didn't your mother show enough affection to you as a child? were you snubbed in the area and now this is your way of "getting back" at someone? you really are a low life miserable person. get a life......
harry finster January 25, 2013 at 04:53 PM
when i hear delusional people say how wonderful that school and town is ,i like to counterbalance them with a little reality ,
John C January 25, 2013 at 05:04 PM
Unless things have changed.... When I was in school the kids that struggled with normal acadmics went to tech to get away from it. The kids that were more educational oriented/minded stayed at the home school. Critize if you want, but that was the way it was then and I am sure it is the same now. That is very possibly the true reason for lower scores at tech vs. home school.
Michael Hill January 25, 2013 at 05:04 PM
Harry I think you are the delusional one, who moves from a town, then stalks it Your mother must have never taught you if you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything at all.
Ike January 25, 2013 at 05:57 PM
You hit it right on the head , John. thats the way its was. And there was nothing bad with it.Back than they taught you how to work.Lke machine shop with Mr. Lange and more.I dont think they even have machince shop now. But why would they , there aint too many jobs for that these days.
harry finster January 26, 2013 at 04:08 AM
it's nice that your idealistic, but if you compared phoenixville to a good school on the main line you would find phoenixville deficient do to the difference in the quality of the students and teachers i went to phoenixville high it was embarrassing how low the expectations were even though they tried to say it was a good school
harry finster January 27, 2013 at 01:50 AM
we have a country full of people who talk and produce nothing ,people who produce are paid nothing ,and imported people who do a little and are paid less so the talker's can tell us how much they deserve to be paid more
Ben Ulferd January 27, 2013 at 02:19 AM
I don't believe for a minute that the Pickering students had high PSSA scores before going to the tech school. If they had high scores, PASD wouldn't have even allowed them to attend Pickering - PASD has a history of only allowing the students that struggle the most academically to attend Pickering. The reality is that mandatory state testing created a system where Phoenixville sent the students that couldn't pass the PSSA's to Pickering - for the last 40 years. This way PASD could wash their hands of their most challenging students. And that's okay!!! These are kids that are hand's on learners. They can take apart a car and put it back together without a manual, but can't sit down and take a standardized test. Does this make them inferior? Absolutely NOT! But - then the rules changed. All state test scores now get sent back to the home districts, and all of a sudden PASD has to take responsibility for their students that don't test well. It has nothing to do with the teachers at Pickering - nor is it the kids. They aren't dumb - they are the future workers that will fix our cars, cut our hair, build our homes, install our solar panels, etc... So what if they can't pass a state test! I would LOVE to see the school board of PASD take the state math test and score proficient. This is all about money - plain and simple. PASD doesn't care about the kids, they care about the money. You watch - PASD won't be able to handle these kids in their academic classes!
harry finster January 29, 2013 at 02:39 AM
propaganda by your local high school /gulag
justin February 14, 2013 at 01:55 PM
it is a dumb idea i am from phoenixville but i am the last full time students at TCHS and what phoenixville does not know is they will need to make a bigger high school and hire more teachers to keep up the students that have to stay at phoenixville and 95% of the students from phoenixville that go to tech do not like this idea at all
Douglas J. Trainor February 14, 2013 at 03:33 PM
harry finster, you will be proven wrong when test scores improve.
Douglas J. Trainor February 14, 2013 at 03:55 PM
PASD is offering the best of both worlds to CCIU students. logistically, the distance via bus is short, less than 2 miles, and about 5 minutes travel time. PASD and CCIU will have to align their days, because you don't want a back-and-forth trip between classes, just a shuttle one way. the students are the #1 concern, and they may benefit for a number of reasons -- the effects from being with their new peers, having better support all around for math and reading at PASD both in terms of all that new equipment in the classrooms and the pool of teachers, and finally giving academics and vocational pursuits equal weighting. test scores for both CCIU students and students as a whole should reflect the improvement. of course, it sucks for CCIU because it means defunding the redundant programs. but it does mean that CCIU will necessarily focus more on its strengths. the only bummer is that the current CCIU students will have to adjust, and some students adjust better than others. i think PASD needs to put additional effort into the transition for the students that experience a more difficult time adjusting than the ones that adapt more easily. this could come in the form of drop-in tutoring, etc.
Douglas J. Trainor February 14, 2013 at 04:19 PM
the best way to improve outcomes for the least amount of money? have PASD create a full pre-kindergarden program. why? #1 PASD students will do better in academics down the road. #2 PASD will have better teaching/testing metrics. #3 individuals will make more money over their lifetimes. #4 decreased odds of individuals ending up in the judicial system over their lifetimes. #5 *and* the local economy would be stronger as a result. towards that direction, PASD finally created the option of full-day kindergarden instead of just half-day kindergarden -- EXCELLENT. the Phoenixville Public Library has a strong lead in this regard with their Kids Calendar and Kids Events at the library and that could be greatly expanded and formalized so that more kids participate. currently, the offerings are the following classes -- Terrific Toddlers (ages 1-2) 1-2-3 Learn With Me (ages 1-3) Preschool Yoga (ages 2-5) Preschool Readiness (ages 3-5) Little Sprouts Nature Class (ages 3-5) After School Gaming (grade 5+) Classic Gaming (ages 5-12) Lego Club (ages 7-12) the most disadvantaged students and their families have the most to gain as well.
Douglas J. Trainor February 14, 2013 at 04:55 PM
why are you so sour?
harry finster February 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM
the chinese are outproducing us ,not outsmarting us.schools in other countries get much better results with less resources ,the us system is run by an elite group of professional educators that have no idea how the real world works ,look around your tpwn and see the decay the result of the us educational system .by the way i attended pahs and have friends who are of the same opinion it was a crappy school and that is being nice
John February 15, 2013 at 01:43 AM
Folks, Harry left phoenixville 40 years ago, he knows nothing about this town. He's a pedophile. Literally, an admitted pedophile who monitors the blotter from across the country to know if the police open a cold case. He obviously is sick in many ways, and knows nothing, about anything.
John February 15, 2013 at 01:49 AM
See my response below Doug, it will explain Harry . It's not mean, but factual. You raise some good points and obviously care about the continued positive growth. Harry left here in the 70's and still thinks phoenixville is the exact same. He's a pedophile, take nothing he say serious
harry finster February 15, 2013 at 05:08 PM
john your bizzare allegations of pediophila show how much in the gutter the average phoenixville mind is
John February 15, 2013 at 06:32 PM
It's not allegations. It's a fact harry. you are an enabler/harborer of a pedophile. Phoenixvville is better since you don't live here. Another ADMITTED harborer of a pedophile is no longer here. If that's 'bizarre;, then fine.
Compassionate Conservative February 20, 2013 at 03:58 PM
Phoenixville School Board OKs preliminary budget with 3.1% tax hike. Pennsylvania cut funding by $1,500,000 and the school board needs to cover that and desires an additional $2,500,000 from residents to grow its budget to cover the retirement fund hole. Are there any fiscal conservatives in leadership positions? http://www.pottsmerc.com/article/20130219/NEWS01/130219290/phoenixville-school-board-oks-preliminary-budget-with-3-1-tax-hike#full_story
Helen Burdeau May 23, 2013 at 08:12 PM
TCHS Pickering Is the best school out there. Students here are more likely to get a job. Also Most students learn more then Phoenixville. I think you should be able to go full time or half time.

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